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#88 - SHOULD YOU QUIT YOUR JOB? with Al Dea

Career Therapy Podcast e.88 - SHOULD YOU QUIT YOUR JOB? with Al Dea

On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.88), we welcome Al Dea to the podcast.

Al is an Author, Podcast Host, Advisor, Product Marketer, and the Founder of Betterwork Labs. He’s passionate about helping people and organizations navigate transformation and today we talk about the evolving relationship between employees and employers, the new priorities people look for in their work, and what steps you can take to quit your job in 2022.

Thank you for tuning in and supporting our show. If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review on iTunes to please the algorithm and share these conversations with more seekers like you.

And now, sit back, relax, and listen in to our convo with Al Dea…

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this episode, we discuss:

0:00 introducing Al Dea

2:55 How is it going for job-seekers?

6:14 The problem with goal setting

7:52 Process > outcome

10:12 Should you quit? (great resignation)

14:15 2 extremes (quitting vs. getting a job)

21:35 Taking time off

23:05 Putting in 80% instead of 110%

26:05 “Baseline needs of a career”

28:44 Lebron James

33:38 How has he seen identity shape people’s decisions?

39:49 Why the great resignation is working

41:30 shifts that are happening in today’s culture

45:55 How do we evaluate work culture

54:25 Al’s advice to someone considering quitting

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#87 - HOW TO FIND THE TRIBE OF YOUR MENTORS, with Digital Marketer Catherine Colombo

Career Therapy Podcast e.87 - HOW TO FIND THE TRIBE OF YOUR MENTORS, with Digital Marketer Catherine Colombo

On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.87), we welcome aspiring social media marketer Catherine Colombo.

Catherine is a social media manager, designer, and digital editor, and also the host and producer of the ‘Careers Through the Years Podcast’ on Spotify. She is the founder of Muse of Media, where she provides small businesses with innovative, affordable marketing.

Catherine is currently in the process of acquiring her Online Marketing Certified Professional certification.

In today’s episode, Martin and Catherine talk podcast startup inspiration, the pressures a lot of us feel to pick the ‘right’ career early on in our lives, and the best (and worst) of modern-day digital marketing. Check it out!

#Career #Digital #Marketing

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this episode, we discuss:

0:00 introducing Catherine Colombo

2:35 Launching a podcast (why would you do it?)

6:24 The pressure to ‘figure things out’

11:45 Classes that could propel you in social media marketing

12:55 How marketing has changed

17:52 Toxic positivity and “finding your passion”

21:44 Using TV tropes to see what jobs are like (don’t do this)

25:20 ‘Why do people buy things?’

31:20 Interesting trends/styles of digital marketing

38:15 In the future? What do YOU want to pursue?

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#86 - SHOULD YOU SECRETLY WORK 2 JOBS TO DOUBLE YOUR INCOME? with Isaac Price (OverEmployed.com)

Career Therapy Podcast e.86 - SHOULD YOU SECRETLY WORK 2 JOBS TO DOUBLE YOUR INCOME? with Isaac Price (OverEmployed.com)

On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.86), we welcome back OverEmployed.com founder 'Isaac Price' for round TWO.

Isaac Price, whose identity will be kept anonymous for this episode for reasons you will soon find out, is the founder of Overemployed.com - a website dedicated to helping people 2x their income by secretly working 2 remote full time jobs at the same time. His work has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, BBC News, and other publications.

I came across Isaac’s work through Josh Fluke, a YouTuber who among other things, critiques corporate cringe, and who made an amazing video reacting to Fox News’ coverage of Isaac’s work.

Today we talk about the upsides of working two jobs at the same time, why it is important to prioritize your life over your work, and the importance of taking ownership in our careers.

Thank you for tuning in and supporting our show. If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review on iTunes to please the algorithm and share these conversations with more seekers like you.

And now, sit back, relax, and listen in to our convo with Isaac…

#OverEmployed #Work #Life

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this episode, we discuss:

0:00 introducing Isaac Price (OverEmployed.com)

5:16 Isaac’s experience

8:30 Company loyalty (does it exist?)

9:37 How does Isaac describe OverEmployed?

13:10 Businesses respect each other (but they don’t respect employees)

15:15 Mindset shifts

16:37 Thinking about our career as income streams

19:15 the Metaverse (is it real?)

22:13 How can people maintain 2 jobs?

30:52 Isaac’s four quadrants (+ keeping a five year journal)

36:22 Mismatched relationship

39:48 What’s the future of remote work?

40:12 Career Therapy ‘Unstuck’ Coaching ad

45:05 Moral vs. legal perspectives

47:10 Treat companies like they treat you

48:02 “Everyone can be overemployed.”

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#85 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: Bouncing Back After a Layoff, with Meg Murphy

Career Therapy Podcast e.85 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: Bouncing Back After a Layoff, with Meg Murphy

NOTE: This episode first premiered on October 14, 2020. We chose this episode as the fourth Career Therapy Rewind because honestly, Meg's a very articulate and well-spoken guest. Also, this episode contains a lot of real, practical, genuine advice on how to DO something after a layoff, create your own future, and move forward with your life. Crucial stuff.

If you're curious, you can find the original episode here.

Here's the original description:

On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.20), Meg Murphy talks us through her layoff story as a Brand and Product Manager, and how she leveraged her community to bounce back and land a job during the pandemic.

#Marketing #Layoff #Networking

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 introducing Meg Murphy

3:16 how’d Meg get into the marketing world?

9:24 “networking in spite of a lay-off”

14:19 the actual lay-off story

18:29 job searching pre COVID pandemic

21:44 loss of identity during a lay-off

22:44 marketing yourself

24:36 exactly what she did to market herself

27:44 separating job from identity

30:14 avoiding downward spirals

33:26 Chicago Superstars Slack group

36:32 “networking through personal branding”

39:39 what advice would Meg give?

46:09 what has Meg learned?

49:05 the most important thing: separating your identity from your job

51:40 ‘it ain’t all sunshine & rainbows’

Resources, pages, and videos mentioned in this episode: 

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#84 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: The Ultimate Guide to an Authentic Job Search, with Lia James

Career Therapy Podcast e.84 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: The Ultimate Guide to an Authentic Job Search, with Lia James

NOTE: This episode first premiered on May 19, 2020. We chose this episode as the third Career Therapy Rewind because Martin and Lia both give very candid advice on how to approach the job search (and networking) if you're shy, introverted, or inexperienced at reaching out.

If you're curious, you can find the original episode here.

Here's the original description:

On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.9), we welcome Lia James. Lia has built her career across workforce development, curriculum design, inclusive hiring, writing, and storytelling, and joins us today to cover a myriad of topics centered around getting the job that’s right for YOU.

According to her LinkedIn profile, Lia is a “connector with an innate ability for bringing people together.” Her “mind is in a constant daydream of solution-chasing and people-matching as if a large Rolodex of puzzle pieces were magically flipping through [her] head.”

Our conversation touches on vulnerability, networking tips & tricks, and what actually works in the modern day job search.

If you’d like to connect with Lia, reach out to her via LinkedIn and ask her about the art installation she was hired to design for a private client event. She’d be happy to start a conversation.

#Career #Friendship #Networking

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 introducing Lia James

2:47 what it’s like on the hiring side

3:24 what do job seekers need to hear?

5:07 not taking things personally

6:48 learning to accept rejection

8:54 think about yourself as a contractor

10:58 knowing what value you provide

12:37 interests outside of work

17:30 stop job searching; make friends

19:04 “why do you want to work here?”

23:07 the fear of limiting ourselves

23:59 “great job culture”

28:19 transferable skills

29:04 how to do big things if you’re a dock worker, waiter, warehouse associate, etc.

40:47 walking the un-opinionated middle line

46:50 being laser focused on the things you want in a job

48:24 the spectrum of confidence

54:07 improv [theatre] nerd out / making decisions

54:42 7 key takeaways

Resources, pages, and videos mentioned in this episode: 

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#83 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: Unleashing Creativity in Your Career, with Juliet Barrett

Career Therapy Podcast e.83 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: Unleashing Creativity in Your Career, with Juliet Barrett

NOTE: This episode first premiered on March 2, 2020. We chose this episode as the second Career Therapy Rewind because Martin and Juliet specifically discuss how to work with unconventional and/or off-the-beaten path pieces of a lifetime. What should you do about a resumé gap? What if you were a professional poker player for a few years?? What if, like Martin, you sang in a ska band??? These are less talked-about career challenges and something that Juliet’s not afraid to tackle.

If you're curious, you can find the original episode here.

Here's the original description:

For Career Therapy Podcast episode 5, we welcome creative career coach Juliet Barrett to the show (for the first time).

Juliet is a self-proclaimed “incubatress of ideas,” and in this conversation, she and Martin discuss their shared interest in overcoming mental blocks. Juliet also talks about how she became a creative career coach after stints in television, broadcasting (at PBS), and professional mural painting.

Later on in the conversation we learn about Martin’s past as the singer of a ska band, and how he used that exact story in interviews. The two also touch on such taboo topics as tattoos, heavy metal songs (eg. “The Slam Dance”), and how to put items such as “professional poker player” on your resumé. It’s a fascinating discussion for anyone looking to start their own business, rebrand themselves, or even get into coaching.

#CareerTherapy #Creativity #Coaching

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 Introducing Juliet Barrett

0:57 “tell us about yourself”

7:43 becoming a life coach

9:18 what is career coaching?

11:03 misconceptions about coaching

14:17 what can you give?

15:48 imposter syndrome and Beyoncé

17:38 LA Instagram influencers

20:01 the difference between a reactive and a proactive job search

27:50 sides to a career: skill set and the temperament

30:35 Martin was the singer in a ska band. Let that sink in.

35:09 Martin’s death metal song: ‘The Slam Dance’

39:26 how to network successfully

44:30 what can 9-5ers learn from the creative space?

53:58 if [you] could go back to any age...

Resources, pages, and videos mentioned in this episode: 

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#82 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: Building a Successful Career in UI/UX, with Jason Early

Career Therapy Podcast e.82 - CAREER THERAPY REWIND: Building a Successful Career in UI/UX, with Jason Early

NOTE: This episode first premiered on February 23, 2020. We chose this episode as the first Career Therapy Rewind because it contains some real practical advice on how to get (and then manage) clients. There's also a lot of reassurance and perspective around the nightmare of dealing with HR, extended interview processes, and what companies are actually going through when they’re hiring.

If you're curious, you can find the original episode here.

Here's the original description:

For Career Therapy Podcast episode 4, we welcome UX expert Jason Early. 

Jason is the founder, front-end developer, and UX designer at gruntmonkey, a small design practice specializing in process and development. He’s also the maker of limited edition show posters (through The Poster Works), a UX and web development instructor with General Assembly, a mentor, a coffee roaster, and a devout fan of baseball. His clients include NASA, M&M/MARS, and Boeing, and he prides himself on providing designs that maintain a balance of beauty and functionality.

Martin and Jason met when they were doing workshops on personal branding, and in this conversation, they talk about how to handle the ebbs and flows of productivity, working for yourself, and entrepreneurship in general. It’s a fascinating discussion and one that’s sure to make you rethink client meetings, how to improve your personal brand, and the best way to run your own business. 

#Branding #UI #UX

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 Introducing Jason Early

0:55 the reading of the LinkedIn profile

5:57 the Yahoo and MySpace era

12:30 life between full-time, entrepreneur, contractor, etc.

13:23 freelancing and moonlighting

17:10 lessons from the trifecta of work experience

19:22 companies aren’t sitting around with piles of money

21:50 what to ask businesses in interviews and/or meetings

28:33 telling people: “I don’t know.”

40:10 being a Swiss Army knife when you own your own business

42:55 when roles disappear out from under you

44:50 “they didn’t go internal — they went under!”

52:34 looking for all the variations in the work

53:48 how to figure out what job descriptions actually mean

57:34 why you need to utilize calls to action

59:36 advice to your former self

Resources, pages, and videos mentioned in this episode: 

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#81 | 2021 WRAP-UP FINALE EPISODE

2021 WRAP-UP FINALE EPISODE | E.81 Career Therapy Podcast, with Martin McGovern (and guests)

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.81), we'd like to welcome you to our first ever year in review!

Career Therapy started as a meetup group, pre-pandemic, when we could still gather together in person without masks and talk to one another through the trials and tribulations of the job search.

But, as the world changed, so did we. The meetup pivoted into LinkedIn livestreams, youtube videos, and ultimately The Career Therapy Podcast.

I absolutely adore talking to new people, hearing their perspectives on the world, and sharing those insights with you. So, today we will look back in order to enter the new year with confidence.

But, before we jump into our clips, I want to say thank you to you. Thank you for tuning in and being part of the Career Therapy journey with me. This podcast has evolved into a weekly part of my life over the years and I couldn’t have done it without your support, comments, questions, and kindness.

Over the past year we have put out 41 episodes with a total of 2,157 minutes of conversations. The podcast has been streamed in 20 new countries, including Germany, Argentina, The Czech Republic, India, and Japan. We’ve increased our follower count by 647% and our listener count by 999% …and 26 of you listen to the Career Therapy Podcast more than any other podcast. Honestly, when Spotify gave me these numbers, my brain nearly exploded.

So, thank you thank you thank you so much for your support. I can’t wait to bring you even more to listen to in 2022. And without further adieu, here are some of our best clips from the past year to refresh your memory and end things on the right foot.

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I want to send a ton of love to all of the guests that have joined us over the past year to bring new perspectives to the job search and share what they have learned about life with us all. I cannot thank them enough for their generosity and kindness.

That wraps up our end of year look back. Thanks again for tuning in. We will be taking a bit of a hiatus in January, possibly resharing some past episodes,

Happy New Year! and cheers to your continued success! See you soon.


#CareerTherapy #BestOf2021 #NewYear


THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.


During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing the last episode of 2021

3:08 HIRECT ad

3:50 Erica Fochtman - quitting a job and becoming self-employed

9:30 RAJNation - WWE Wrestlers and the true meaning of PASSION

17:51 Keisha Howard - why you should TAKE TIME OFF from social media

28:19 David Fano - boosting your job search + “going on the internal journey” to KNOW YOURSELF

34:49 Freddy Ayala - how to use the ‘marketing perspective’ to GET ANY JOB

45:46 Career Therapy coaching ad

46:32 Chalotte Japp - rethinking traditional career milestones + taking control of your life

57:03 Rosette Elghossain - how to stop the cycle of self-criticism and rise above all the insanity of social media

1:09:08 saying goodbye to 2021. Cheers, and thanks for listening!


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#80 | 2022 IS GOING TO BE CRAZY FOR CAREERS

2022 IS GOING TO BE CRAZY FOR CAREERS | E.80 Career Therapy Podcast, with Taylor Desseyn

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.80), we welcome Taylor Desseyn to the podcast.

Taylor is a Sr. Recruiter at Vaco, has placed over 450+ people into their dream tech careers, hosts the Guidance Counselor 2.0 live show and podcast, and is a self proclaimed Recruiter Against Recruiters.

In today’s convo we take a look behind the corporate and recruitment curtain, explore what an ideal hiring process would look like, and map out the future of finding a job in 2022. The world is changing and we need to change with it.

If you like our show, please subscribe and leave us a review on iTunes. We love hearing from you and your support enables us to keep curating conversations to help you grow in your life and career.

Now grab a cup of coffee or tea and settle in for my conversation with Taylor…

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this episode, we discuss:

0:00 introducing Taylor Desseyn

2:56 What does ‘Recruiter Against Recruiters’ mean?

5:12 Why does it take so LONG to get a job?

7:25 “Me-culture”

9:43 Recruiters need to have confidence in who they are

11:49 Why are companies struggling?

17:15 No one knows how to interview.

20:05 Where should people spend their time in the job search?

23:44 How do you get your story straight?

29:29 Job seekers have power right now (star for short clip)

32:52 Networking

42:11 How to change your career for the better?

47:05 Should people wait until the holidays are over?

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

As always, thanks for listening!

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#79 | HOW TO END WORK CONFLICTS IN THE NEW YEAR

Why Would a Smart Person Do Such a Stupid Thing? | E.79 Career Therapy Podcast, with Liz Kislik

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.79), we welcome Liz Kislik to the conversation.

Liz is a management consultant, executive coach, TEDx speaker, and contributor to Harvard Business Review and Forbes. She spoke at TEDxBaylorSchool on Why There’s So Much Conflict at Work and What You Can Do to Fix It, and is the author of Workplace Wisdom: How to Resolve Interpersonal Conflicts in the Workplace, available as a free ebook.

In today’s episode we talk about conflict, including the strife bubbling between employers and employees during this time of Great Resignation; how using the phrase “poor baby” can help you build empathy, and what you can do to control your inner conflict so it you can stop reacting to things and start leading your career with a balanced, empathetic worldview.

Also, my favorite part of the episode - asking the question …is this person being malicious, or just stupid?

If you like our show, please subscribe and leave us a review on iTunes. We love hearing from you and your support enables us to keep curating conversations to help you grow in your life and career.

Now grab a cup of coffee or tea and settle in for my conversation with Liz…

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing Liz Kislik

7:07 The Great Resignation

12:37 The ‘Seed of Change’ / incentives

19:33 Employers are ALSO stressed out (blind spots)

26:50 Power dynamics in the job search

34:49 Be the most HELPFUL person

43:43 The stories we tell ourselves

45:44 Expectations of companies

52:51 Internal conflicts (knowing what YOU WANT)

1:00:38 Improving our communication skills (tips from Liz)

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

As always, thanks for listening!

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#78 | HOW ALGORITHMS CONTROL YOU

HOW ALGORITHMS CONTROL YOU | E.78 Career Therapy Podcast, with Ann Marie Carrothers

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.78), we welcome Ann Marie Carrothers back for round TWO. 

Today’s Sponsor: Hirect https://hirect.us/invitation?bdId=15 find a job with Hirect today :)

(And yes, this is the second of Career Therapy’s first two-part conversation, about the overlap of dating and job searching. So, if you haven’t listened to part one, feel free to go back and check it out before listening to this episode.)

For a little background, Ann Marie is a content strategist, digital educator, and founder of Public Privates, a project dedicated to helping people find love online safely by providing guidance on algorithms, AI facial recognition, and digital privacy + security.

In today’s episode (part 2) we talk about how ATS (Applicant Tracking Systems) and dating algorithms control our careers and love life, how to manipulate these systems with keywords that work in your favor, and what you can do to side-step the whole online sink-hole entirely, and get back to using these apps as tools, rather than crutches for your life. 

If you like our show, please subscribe and leave us a review on iTunes. We love hearing from you and your support enables us to keep curating conversations to help you grow in your life and career. 

Now grab a cup of coffee or tea and settle in for the second part of our conversation with Ann Marie…

During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 introducing Ann Marie Carrothers

3:30 the feeling of: “What’s wrong with me?”

10:00 Platforms promising the world to candidates

15:30 How to navigate through this stuff (take ego out of it)

22:00 Changing our psychology

25:35 LinkedIn vs. dating apps (professional vs. personal image)

29:15 Imposter syndrome 

31:46 Writing down WHAT YOU WANT

34:02 The internet is encouraging you to be authentic 

38:45 Squeeze the most value out of the apps

47:16 Focusing on what’s IN our control

48:50 Can you have a career WITHOUT LinkedIn?

51:46 Pulling back from information overload

56:50 The crucial importance of side-projects and hobbies

1:10:00 Making introductions (being helpful) 

1:14:45 One piece of advice from Ann Marie

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

As always, thanks for listening!

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#77 | WHAT JOB SEEKERS CAN LEARN FROM DATING APPS

WHAT JOB SEEKERS CAN LEARN FROM DATING APPS | E.77 Career Therapy Podcast, with Ann Marie Carrothers

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.77), we welcome Ann Marie Carrothers to the conversation.

Ann Marie is a content strategist, digital educator, and founder of Public Privates, a project dedicated to helping people find love online safely by providing guidance on algorithms, AI facial recognition, and digital privacy + security.

In today’s episode we talk about the overlap between online dating and the job search, the difference between authenticity and marketing yourself to attract a job (or potential date), and how ideas of dream jobs and soul mates can actually hurt our chances of building a life we love.

If you like our show, please subscribe and leave us a review on iTunes. We love hearing from you and your support enables us to keep curating conversations to help you grow in your life and career.

Now grab a cup of coffee or tea and settle in for my conversation with Ann Marie…

During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing Ann Marie Carrothers

8:22 how the job search and dating are similar

10:20 where do people struggle with getting specific?

14:00 marketing yourself vs. being authentic

15:30 what should we keep private? (+ neurodivergence)

18:45 “People aren’t doing well right now mental health-wise”

21:14 Why it’s bad to be hyper self-focused

25:15 Everything comes with trade-offs (“settling”) (star) + scripts

32:14The tightrope between humbling ourselves and hyping ourselves up

34:40 How can people get back on the horse and keep crushing it?

41:06 Coffee chats and the BEST WAY to network (if you’re applying to your dream job before you’re ready…)

49:58 Ann Marie Carrothers’ advice to job seekers and anyone dating

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

As always, thanks for listening!

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#76 | TAKING CONTROL DURING THE GREAT RESIGNATION

TAKING CONTROL DURING THE GREAT RESIGNATION | E.76 Career Therapy Podcast, with Career Coach Kristin Schuchman

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.76), we welcome career counselor, author, and resumé writer Kristin Schuchman to the podcast.

Kristin is a certified business coach and member of the Forbes Coaching Council. She has helmed successful businesses for more than twenty years, including the award-winning Nervy Girl magazine. She owns a career consulting practice called Spark a Career and a coworking space called Brightside Space. Her new book, Jump Start: How to redirect a career that has stalled, lost direction or reached a crossroads.

In today’s episode we talk about The Great Resignation, the future of hybrid workplaces (including the Facebook Metaverse), and how to approach your career from an authentic place.

If you like our show, please leave us a review on iTunes, it truly helps us get the word out to more people struggling in their search and allows us to keep having candid career conversations like this one.

Now grab a cup of coffee or tea and settle in for my conversation with Kristin…

#Career #RemoteWork #GreatResignation

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing Kristin Schuchman

2:56 the Great Resignation

5:40 what build appreciation in the workplace?

8:10 “finding your passion”

10:50 sincerity in the workforce

16:00 having time to think

16:45 stuck in a rut

18:25 disconnection and remote work

29:55 what’s the future workspace look like?

36:36 the FaceBook ‘metaverse’

39:13 adapting to a new work environment

41:04 why HR departments need reform

42:58 when you’re frustrated with the job search

48:00 getting booked (elevator pitches)

51:00 awakening from a “pea soup fog”

53:05 communication + collaboration (prep for 2022)

54:39 asking yourself the tough questions

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#75 | HOW TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF SELF-CRITICISM

HOW TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF SELF-CRITICISM | E.75 Career Therapy Podcast, with Psychologist Rosette Elghossain

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.75), we welcome psychologist Rosette Elghossain.

Rosette is a first-generation Lebanese-American licensed clinical psychologist in private practice. She primarily helps women navigate and heal from family of origin trauma, relationship problems, perfectionism, shame, and third-culture challenges.

In today’s episode we talk about the issues that arise when we abandon our sense of self and go on auto-pilot in order to please others in our career and life, how to tell the difference between a narcissistic, toxic, or just overworked boss, and why the “War on Ordinary” is creating so many issues in our ability to enjoy life and find contentment in what we have - because truthfully, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

If you like our show, please leave us a review on iTunes, it truly helps us get the word out to more people struggling in their search and allows us to keep having candid career conversations like this one.

Now grab a cup of coffee or tea and settle in for my conversation with Rosette.

#Career #Stress #Therapy

THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY:

HIRECT - A Chat-Based Direct Hiring Platform - Chat Directly. Hire Quickly. First chat-based hiring app for start-ups. Chat and interview candidates anytime, anywhere.

During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing Rosette Elghossain

3:24 “stories on repeat” in the job search

4:30 relationship milestones in childhood

6:55 the “supposed to” mindset (why you don’t have to be Elon Musk)

11:45 how to get over the ADHD mentality

14:30 the two mindsets around therapy

24:00 what helps to combat depression and anxiety

25:30 toxic positivity

27:35 the problem with LinkedIn

29:00 toxic bosses and narcissism

36:00 either or mindsets

38:03 having empathy for hiring managers and/or recruiters

40:20 developing the “empathy muscle”

43:06 self compassion

45:15 the “war on ordinary”

46:55 clean sources of motivation

1:01:05 Rosette’s advice to stressed-out individuals

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#74 | HOW TO GET OUT OF YOUR OWN WAY

HOW TO GET OUT OF YOUR OWN WAY | E.74 Career Therapy Podcast, with co-authors Cathy Wasserman and Lauren Weinstein

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.74), we welcome both Cathy Wasserman and Lauren Weinstein to the podcast.

Cathy and Lauren are the co-authors of ‘The Empowered Job Search’ book. They draw on more than 30 years as career and leadership coaches with significant influences from positive psychology, Buddhist principles, and Nonviolent Communication, to help you know yourself in today’s modern working world.

In today’s episode, we talk about the differences between performative and personal identity, the importance of narrative in building career confidence, and how to tap into cleaner forms of motivation in your search, beyond fear, anxiety, and failure.

If you like our show, please leave us a review on iTunes. It truly helps us get the word out to more people struggling in their search and allows us to keep having candid career conversations like this one.

#JobSearch #Career #NonviolentCommunication

During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing Cathy Wasserman and Lauren Weinstein

3:00 the most common blockers

5:15 why we make things harder for ourselves

7:55 getting clear on what you have to OFFER

9:20 the spirit of camaraderie

14:20 identity wrapped up in a job

16:45 the fluidity of identity

18:50 imposter syndrome

24:40 the “performative dance” of networking/job searching

28:20 personal branding, good or bad?

32:40 “once I get the job, this'll all be over” = WRONG

33:40 ‘the Great Resignation’

47:05 nonviolent communication

51:48 common experiences in the job search

53:55 we feel like we’re “supposed to” know things

55:20 finding the sweet spot

56:40 why you need “cleaner sources of motivation”

59:30 a sense of childlike wonder

1:00:38 what they’d change about the job search

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

As always, thanks for listening!

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#73 | WHY BOOMERS, MILLENNIALS & GEN-Z NEED TO TALK

Why Boomers, Millennials, & Gen-Z NEED to talk| E.73 Career Therapy Podcast, with Charlotte Japp

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.73), we welcome Charlotte Japp to the podcast. This is a GREAT episode with a really interesting company.

Charlotte is the founder of CIRKEL, a company that connects older and younger professionals for mutual personal and professional growth and was named one of Next Avenue’s 2020 Influencers In Aging and a 2020 Gen2Gen Innovation Fellow. She has been featured in publications like The New York Times and spoken internationally about the magic of connecting generations.

In today’s episode we talk about the dangers of intergenerational conflict, the difficulties of “having it all,” how priorities change throughout our lives, and the one thing that unites everyone, no matter what age you are.

Thank you for tuning in and supporting our show. If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review on iTunes and share these conversations with more folks like you.

ABOUT CHARLOTTE JAPP

Charlotte Japp is the founder of CIRKEL, a company that connects older and younger professionals for mutual personal and professional growth. After graduating from Georgetown University, Charlotte started her career in creative marketing and saw the consequences of age segregation in the workplace. Older and younger professionals needed to connect and learn from each other, but had no way to meet. CIRKEL makes networking across generations seamless, inspiring, and impactful – working with both individuals and corporations to bridge the gap. Charlotte was named one of Next Avenue’s 2020 Influencers In Aging and a 2020 Gen2Gen Innovation Fellow. She has been featured in publications like The New York Times and spoken internationally about the magic of connecting generations.

During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing Charlotte Japp and CIRKEL

2:20 the social media landscape

8:00 the power of parents

10:20 New York City and individualism

14:00 exploring the idea of fear

16:30 “to have a good life is like a math problem”

17:55 abundance vs. scarcity mentality

19:50 rebelling against your parents (“OK, boomer.”)

22:00 taking stock of what’s working and what’s not (and career transitions)

23:55 the best part about being a career coach

30:10 ‘OK Boomer, Let's Talk’ by Jill Filipovic

31:52 talking about marriage

34:30 what has Charlotte uncovered in her work with CIRKEL?

38:50 the technological divide (eg. TikTok)

40:58 what should we learn as lifelong learners?

44:15 encouraging CURIOSITY

53:00 how to get in touch with CIRKEL

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

As always, thanks for listening!

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#72 | HOW TO CRUSH IT WHEN YOU START A NEW JOB.

HOW TO CRUSH IT WHEN YOU START A NEW JOB | E.72 Career Therapy Podcast, with Teegan Bartos

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.72), we welcome Teegan Bartos to the conversation. 

Teegan is a resume writer, LinkedIn optimizer, certified career management coach and founder of Jolt Your Career, helping professionals land their perfect FIT job quickly and make more money than ever before. 

In today’s episode we go beyond the job search and talk about what to do once you land that perfect role. So many people drop the ball in the first 30, 60, 90 days, so we dig in and discuss how to connect with coworkers, manage up with your boss, and set yourself up for that next promotion 6 months to a year down the line. 

Thank you for tuning in and supporting our show. If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review on iTunes to feed the algorithms and share these conversations with more folks like you. 

Now grab a cup of coffee (or tea), and settle in for our conversation with Teegan.


During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 introducing Teegan Bartos

4:10 what happens when you GET the job?

8:30 comin’ in just a little bit, WAY too hot.

14:50 it’s a LONG game

16:00 how DO you talk to people?

20:06 why it’s not about YOU - it’s about the team. 

21:00 how to read the room. 

23:00 the VALUE of small talk

27:35 kill ‘em with kindness (the genius of Ted Lasso)

29:40 scheduling one-on-ones

40:20 having a monthly one-on-one

45:00 mandatory happy hours

50:30 planning for the future

55:00 tracking your progress for future (for promotions)


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As always, thanks for listening!

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#71 | HOW TO GET THEM TO STOP GHOSTING

HOW TO GET THEM TO STOP GHOSTING | E.71 Career Therapy Podcast with Freddy Ayala

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.71), we welcome Freddy Ayala to the podcast.

Freddy is a communications specialist with a focus in public relations and digital marketing. He’s skilled at crafting relatable posts and press releases, and he’s able to communicate with a wide variety of audiences in order to build strong social followings and foster a sense of community. 

Last year, for example, Freddy boosted the California State University San Bernardino’s Student Union social media accounts, more than doubling their outreach by adding roughly 2600 engaged, active Twitter followers in the span of a single semester. 

Recently, Freddy shared a post on LinkedIn that caught my eye. In it, he mentioned that he was “tired of all the rejections, so he started doing something he genuinely enjoys as a project” in order to stand out in his search. 

In today’s episode we talk about the media project he launched, what to do when you don’t hear back after submitting an application, and some practical tips & tricks for how to approach the job hunt post-college.


About Freddy Ayala

Freddy’s arsenal of communications-based skills – including social media marketing, public relations writing, and digital photography – serve the ultimate goal of helping companies communicate with their audiences. He’s got a knack for speaking the language of the brand audience and coming up with unique angles for new content to tell any story. He's also got an incredible taste in music and a song for every mood. In other words, Freddy gets it.

Need someone who understands youth culture, social media marketing, and what it takes to reach the millennial and Gen-Z demographics? Freddy Ayala is your man.


During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 introducing Freddy Ayala

2:14 an update on Freddy’s job search

4:28 what do media companies actually look for?

5:50 playlist curation for Spotify

8:45 the PROJECT itself

14:35 reaching out to companies / getting ghosted

17:40 a case study in networking outreach

20:30 how to network effectively (!)

22:58 the job search from a marketing perspective

27:20 how to leverage your [side hustle] project into a job offer

28:51 how people actually get jobs (ie. nepotism)

32:19 what problems are these companies ACTUALLY facing?

36:10 next steps (get out there!)

38:35 where to find Freddy online (MusicHeals TikTok)

39:45 panicking during interviews

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#70 | HOW JOB SEEKERS WITH DISABILITIES CAN IMPROVE THEIR SEARCH

HOW JOB SEEKERS WITH DISABILITIES CAN IMPROVE THEIR SEARCH | E.70 Career Therapy Podcast with Career Coach Jacob Levy

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.70), we welcome career coach Jacob Levy to the podcast.

Jacob teaches job seekers and small business owners with disabilities how to identify opportunities OUTSIDE their network, by creating content optimized for the LinkedIn algorithm. His goal is to help those with invisible disabilities to leverage their subject matter expertise in order to find and bring value to the decision makers behind jobs around the world.

Some of the topics Jacob specializes in include: cognitive impairment, special education, memory retrieval, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer’s, dementia, ADD or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, bipolar, SSDI and social security disability. He’s a training specialist, a learning specialist, and an instructional designer.

Today we talk about how to figure out what kinds of content you should create, how to avoid burnout while putting yourself out there, and what ‘playing the game’ actually looks like in practice.

Thank you for tuning in and supporting our show. If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review on iTunes to feed the algorithm and share these conversations with more folks like you.

Now, sit back, relax, and listen in to our convo with Jacob…

During this Episode, We Discuss:

0:00 introducing Jacob Levy

2:00 how Jacob got involved in coaching

4:15 the niche: folks with disabilities

5:40 different types of learners (meta-cognition)

9:20 the Gary V approach (employed to self-employed)

10:35 the difficulties of putting yourself out there on the internet

15:10 everyone can create content in some way

16:54 as a job-seeker, you have to ENGAGE.

19:45 “invisible disabilities”

24:00 should you even BE a content-creator?

27:15 the mental health side of things.

32:45 why you need a SERIES

44:10 all employers care about IS:

47:10 if your light goes out (get back to neutral)

52:40 how to avoid getting stuck

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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#68 | HOW TO PROTECT YOUR MENTAL HEALTH IN THE JOB SEARCH

PROTECTING YOUR MENTAL HEALTH IN THE JOB SEARCH | E.68 Career Therapy Podcast with Lex Stewart

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On this week's Career Therapy Podcast (e.68), we welcome Lex Stewart.

Lex is a Career Coach, Training Developer, and Gaming Enthusiast who helps job seekers level up in their hunt for a new role. Ultimately, she helps people figure out what they want to be and do when they "grow up.” By guiding clients in exploring their values and dreaming big, she supports their transition into internships, apprenticeships, and full-time work.

Today, we discuss neurodivergent job search experiences, including ADHD, Anxiety, and Depression, what we would change about the hiring process if given a “do-over” card, and how self help can both help and hinder your pursuit of a new role.

Thank you so much for your support and for listening to our show. If you enjoy this episode, please consider leaving us a review on iTunes to please the algorithm and share these conversations with more seekers like you.

During this Episode, We Discuss: 

0:00 introducing Lex Stewart

1:45 Intro to ADHD and depression

6:05 what does “neurotypical” mean?

9:05 the world of self-help

14:30 the “tell everyone” thought process

17:30 job security (does it exist?) (star)

19:20 what’s HELPFUL for job seekers?

22:35 getting to “neutral” with the job search

24:14 “anxious honesty” / oversharing of insecurities

29:30 what the job search used to be like

30:30 Resumés on TikTok?

36:15 the skill of the job vs. the skill of the job search

38:05 “why do I have to do this?”

41:35 applicant tracking systems

45:10 the GOOD parts of the job search

48:28 insights from gaming

Resources, links, and/or books mentioned in this episode:

Now Over To You!

If you know anyone who has been hustling, or started a business, during the pandemic, and has an amazing story to share, let us know who they are! Alternately, if you, or someone you know has recently gone through a layoff, or has a layoff, or any other career transition-oriented story to share, reach out. Contact Martin through his personal LinkedIn page to get in touch. We're always on the lookout for amazing guests for the cast.

As always, thanks for listening!

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